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Title: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on October 27, 2017, 03:14:49 AM

I've known the joy of discovering more and more Counting Crows music... to excess almost. It just never gets old. And it's why I'm a loyal fan and a devoted member to crows-town.


Now with the torrent tracker gone, it's time to start something new. It's been discussed more recently, but as of yesterday Kamio and I opened a cloud drive with enough potential space to fit every single Counting Crows bootleg we know of (at a very reasonable price). The ultimate goal is one, single resource carrying a full, historical library of shows to listen to & download here in Crows Town.


This has been such a valuable resource to me since 2006, and I know there's a mass of fans out there without the access to the live music I had back then. Without the torrents and downloads, I never would have become as passionate about the band. It's what Crows-town should be and I think we all want to see it be that again.


So, to do this, we need a collaboration. More specifically.. donations - the digital kind. No one's obligated to take a part in it, but it's really, really welcomed! As well as any and all thoughts or suggestions. I hope this can be a project for this community to create something grand to represent Counting Crows for the fans to enjoy.


If you have a good collection that you're willing to contribute for the shared drive, let me/us know. It will definitely take time to upload & collect the shows, but each show only needs to uploaded once... much simpler than needing to seed them time and time again. If you have ideas and desire to be actively involved, we can give some members access to the folders to upload directly to them. The more people uploading, the easier/faster things will get added to it. If you'd like to simply send shows for us to upload, send them via any means you desire (google drive, we-transfer, cd, mega, etc). As soon as a show gets added we'll cross it off Simon's list. Until the day the final show is posted. :D


So that's the news! Please spread the word to members who aren't on here as much right now. I'm hoping this is something that can bring more long-time members back around!
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: allenduritz on October 27, 2017, 05:19:01 PM
I am willing to contribute, and I included Simon's checklist as an attachment. The shows I have are in red. I still need plenty...I can never get enough. It is time to give back and make Crows-Town a happening place again.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: tenzin on October 27, 2017, 10:52:07 PM
Would lossy mp3 format shows be wanted if nothing else was available? If so, I have a bunch.

Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on October 27, 2017, 11:02:20 PM
I am willing to contribute, and I included Simon's checklist as an attachment. The shows I have are in red. I still need plenty...I can never get enough. It is time to give back and make Crows-Town a happening place again.

Nice Allen! That's a great collection. I'll PM you with some more info.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on October 27, 2017, 11:09:53 PM
Would lossy mp3 format shows be wanted if nothing else was available? If so, I have a bunch.


This is where why we're going by Simon's Bootleg db list. For each show that's out there, he's marked if Lossless (or only lossy) copies exist. If only lossy one's exist though, we'd want them upsampled to Flac format, because that preserves the quality better than mp3 will.

Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: thehappymundays on October 27, 2017, 11:19:19 PM
Would lossy mp3 format shows be wanted if nothing else was available? If so, I have a bunch.


This is where why we're going by Simon's Bootleg db list. For each show that's out there, he's marked if Lossless (or only lossy) copies exist. If only lossy one's exist though, we'd want them upsampled to Flac format, because that preserves the quality better than mp3 will.



Hi apologies I don't want to come across as rude how will decoding preserve quality ?Dave
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on October 28, 2017, 12:37:52 AM
Dave, perhaps you know more than I do. I just had a discussion last week about this here >> http://crows-town.com/index.php?topic=5342.msg52311#new

"Upsampled = lossy bumped up to FLAC. For example, if I record a lossy web stream in MP3 and FLAC it, it would be upsampled - the file has been made bigger but no more information is in there. A lot of times this happens because someone's trying to maintain the highest quality possible (particularly when recording a stream)."



Please feel free to enlighten me... I'm not an expert. I'm just trying to do it right.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: kamio on October 28, 2017, 03:28:37 AM
I am excited to help create an archive of all this great music.  I am also grateful for the support of the community.

Shoot either myself or Cmstewart a PM, and we'll get you sorted out.

Thanks again!
Kamio
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on October 28, 2017, 10:25:44 PM
Dave, perhaps you know more than I do. I just had a discussion last week about this here >> http://crows-town.com/index.php?topic=5342.msg52311#new

"Upsampled = lossy bumped up to FLAC. For example, if I record a lossy web stream in MP3 and FLAC it, it would be upsampled - the file has been made bigger but no more information is in there. A lot of times this happens because someone's trying to maintain the highest quality possible (particularly when recording a stream)."



Please feel free to enlighten me... I'm not an expert. I'm just trying to do it right.

What I meant here is that you might get lossy if you were, for example, recording a stream in FLAC to preserve quality. That does not mean you should intentionally upsample, especially when something has only been recorded in mp3. There's no point.

Also, a lot of sources marked as LOSSY on Simon's sheet are not better off in mp3 format. A lot of the audience tapes from that time were recorded to minidisc, which appears lossy in a spectrum analysis. But an mp3 version of that source is still worse than the original files.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on October 28, 2017, 10:49:28 PM
Yeah, that makes sense Chris. I think I misunderstood, or just wasn't communicating what I thought very well.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: kamio on October 29, 2017, 01:29:11 AM
Alright... Woot!  It's coming together beautifully.

We got cwstewart, cmigs,and javajones adding to the archive!

Soon Allendurtiz

This is great!  Thanks to all those contributions!
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: allenduritz on October 29, 2017, 05:02:02 AM
I am on board  :)
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: Dan33185 on November 01, 2017, 06:14:40 PM
Here's what I have

http://db.etree.org/myshows_smarty.php?userid=Dan33185&artist_key=174
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: kamio on November 02, 2017, 02:41:30 AM
I don't do social media...  But is anyone a member of Merry Murders?

https://www.facebook.com/pg/CCrowsMM/posts/?ref=page_internal (https://www.facebook.com/pg/CCrowsMM/posts/?ref=page_internal)

I've heard they also have a share set up as well.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on November 02, 2017, 04:42:25 AM
Here's what I have

http://db.etree.org/myshows_smarty.php?userid=Dan33185&artist_key=174 (http://db.etree.org/myshows_smarty.php?userid=Dan33185&artist_key=174)

Hey Dan! Great list. I sent you a PM.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on November 07, 2017, 06:08:17 PM
By my records, looks like 1992 is complete. I'm uploading a batch of 1993 today - looks like the only show missing from that year would be 12.11 at the Warfield in San Francisco. Will go looking for it myself at some point, but if someone has their CC collection more organized than mine, would be a useful upload.


EDIT: I also only seem to have an APE version of 1993.10.06 from Deep Ellum. If anyone has FLAC handy, that'd save some conversion work.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: thehappymundays on November 08, 2017, 02:37:04 AM
Here's what I have

http://db.etree.org/myshows_smarty.php?userid=Dan33185&artist_key=174

Dan could you upload Counting Crows - 04/26/02  thanks
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: kamio on November 09, 2017, 06:47:33 AM
I updated Simon's DB on the SYNC site with the stuff that has been uploaded so far.
 
I added a column to the front of each tab called "On SYNC".  If we have uploaded it, I placed a "Y", blank if nothing.  I also wrote "INCOMPLETE" if it's incomplete. 

We aren't a 1 for 1 yet with respect to Simon's list, but I tried.  If I made a mistake, feel free to fix the Excel sheet. 

We still got a long ways to go, but we have a good start (alot of AAEA era stuff).

Thanks goes out to those providing digital contributions! 
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: kamio on November 09, 2017, 07:28:26 AM

EDIT: I also only seem to have an APE version of 1993.10.06 from Deep Ellum. If anyone has FLAC handy, that'd save some conversion work.

The first and third file of this version cut off after 30 seconds.  The second file only is like 10 seconds long. So this show is incomplete right now, missing the first 3 files.  The 4th,5th and 6th (children in bloom, sullivan street, murder of one ) sound great!

I will upload the FLAC for the last 3 shows, into the same folder for now
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on November 09, 2017, 04:31:02 PM

EDIT: I also only seem to have an APE version of 1993.10.06 from Deep Ellum. If anyone has FLAC handy, that'd save some conversion work.

The first and third file of this version cut off after 30 seconds.  The second file only is like 10 seconds long. So this show is incomplete right now, missing the first 3 files.  The 4th,5th and 6th (children in bloom, sullivan street, murder of one ) sound great!

I will upload the FLAC for the last 3 shows, into the same folder for now

Darn - I saw the sizes and was hoping those tracks were banter. Well, I'm sure someone has that show complete, it's been traded pretty widely.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on November 10, 2017, 04:44:54 AM
I'm uploading a batch of 1993 today - looks like the only show missing from that year would be 12.11 at the Warfield in San Francisco. Will go looking for it myself at some point, but if someone has their CC collection more organized than mine, would be a useful upload.


I think Adam might have filled in that one. He started uploading his early stuff that day. AAEA's looking nice so far.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: kamio on November 10, 2017, 07:17:35 AM
I am converting all the APE/SHN files to FLAC.  I will upload the FLAC as an option.

I'll follow the organization method I noticed being used.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on November 15, 2017, 04:44:42 PM
I'm putting up the Paris '94 shows right now, which completes what I have for 1994. Here's what's missing:


1.15.94 Saturday Night Live Rehearsals New York, NY
01.19.94 9:30 Club Washington DC         
04.13.94 Sheperds Bush Empire London, England   (worst case, I have the DVD of this and we can rip audio from that)06.19.94   Music Hall Houston, TX     07.02.94   State Theater Minneapolis, MN       07.20.94   Nautica Stage Cleveland, OH        08.15.94   Giants Stadium East Rutherford, NJ             11.12.94Corn Exchange Cambridge, England       
11.22.94   Unknown Berlin, Germany   
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on November 15, 2017, 06:18:14 PM
Also, going to get both 1995 shows up today.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on November 16, 2017, 03:51:56 AM
Thanks Chris! I saw the 1995 shows you put up. And thanks for keeping track of what we're missing. I'll see if I can track some of those down. I didn't intend to be perfectionistic about this, but since we got all of 92 and 93 why not go for it.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on November 16, 2017, 04:57:21 PM
Thanks Chris! I saw the 1995 shows you put up. And thanks for keeping track of what we're missing. I'll see if I can track some of those down. I didn't intend to be perfectionistic about this, but since we got all of 92 and 93 why not go for it.

Oh, I think being a perfectionist about this should be the end goal. No reason not to be. If Simon has marked it, it exists and has been shared, and someone here almost certainly has it.

I'm working through 1996, although I can't seem to find a bunch of the shows, even though I'm pretty sure I have them somewhere. Uploading a few now but will go looking for the others before I start on 1997.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: raisemyglass on November 16, 2017, 05:09:00 PM
Hey guys. I stumble across an old hard drive when doing some cleaning. It has a bunch of CC stuff on it (~95gb). It pretty heavy in the 1999-2008 eras.
Should be primarily stuff that was shared here or on bootcity back when Simon and I were cobbling this stuff up.
I think most of my 1992-1998 stuff is stored on CDR's somewhere (I've moved a couple times since the hayday of collecting).
I haven't been into dl'ing show / trading / etc. for about 10 years now (I was starting to bow out around the time the site originally went down back in the mid to late 2000's.)

 If I can fill any holes for you I'll do what I can.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on November 16, 2017, 08:09:19 PM
We would certainly value your help. We've been going chronologically for the most part, so far there's about 5 of us contributing. If you wanna help as well, PM me your email address and I'll have an invite sent to you to join the share drive.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on November 16, 2017, 08:37:49 PM
If Simon has marked it, it exists and has been shared, and someone here almost certainly has it.

Sounds great to me. I know there's gonna be those few that are harder to find. But I'll do everything I can to help get them. If enough people chip in they'll turn up.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: Kruykster on November 16, 2017, 09:52:33 PM
been meaning to comment, life's been busy since my first kid this past year. I've been active since 2007 ish I think....I've got quite a few but not much of the old stuff. How can I help with some uploads of what I've gotten from this site?
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on November 16, 2017, 10:38:43 PM
I would say anyone can help by uploading what they have that's not there currently. The more people contributing to it, the faster it will go. The shows are pretty well marked, so it should be easy to see what's up there.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: kamio on November 18, 2017, 03:44:57 AM
Crows-Town Share update

It's been about 3 weeks since cmstewart and myself started the share.  I wanted to provide a little update.

First and foremost, I want to say thank you to the members that have been contributing.  We have 8 people currently involved in the project:

We could always use more people that have extensive archives *cough* Jason *cough* :)

Second:  We have about 61GB of stuff uploaded so far.  A lot of it is duplicates (different formats).  Going off Simon's list, I'd say it's safe to say that we have all of AAEA 1992-1994 uploaded, and we are starting to fill in RTS.  Our focus is on lossless (APE, SHN, FLAC, WAV),but we take lossy as well.  If something is uploaded in an old format (SHN or APE), I've been converting it to FLAC.

Right now, the share is only open to uploaders.  Eventually, the goal is to provide a download link on this forum where people can download the collection, in whole or part.  However, we really want to get more content and to clean the archive up a bit.  We also need to eventually discuss the best approach to provide download access, without (1) pissing off the hosting provider; (2) pissing off anyone else (e.g. lawyers).

If you would like to digitally contribute or have any additional questions, please get in contact with either me or cmstewart.

Thank you for all your support and interest in the project. 
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: thehappymundays on November 18, 2017, 09:03:01 PM
Thanks for sorting I will try and upload a few more before the holiday
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on November 20, 2017, 05:51:08 PM
Crows-Town Share update

Going off Simon's list, I'd say it's safe to say that we have all of AAEA 1992-1994 uploaded, and we are starting to fill in RTS. 

I don't think it's safe to say that. I see some gaps in 1994 and we still only have an incomplete version of Deep Ellum 1993.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on November 23, 2017, 03:55:52 PM

I did my best to examine Simon's list and the AAEA portion of the drive, and this is what we still need for that era:

10.16.1993 Deep Ellum, Dallas (Incomplete)

1.15.1994 Saturday Night Live Rehearsals, NY
1.19.1993 9:30 Club, Washington DC
4.13.1994 Shepherds Bush Empire, London
6.19.1994 Music Hall, Houston
7.02.1994 State Theater, Minneapolis
7.20.1994 Nautica Stage, Cleveland
8.15.1994 Giants Stadium, East Rutherford
11.12.1994 Corn Exchange, Cambridge
11.22.1994 Unknown, Berlin

And these 3 only have lossy copies as of yet:

2.25.1994 Shyrock Auditorium, Carbondale
4.12.1994 Later with Jools London
11.30.1994 Batschkapp, Frankfurt
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: Kruykster on November 24, 2017, 03:52:23 PM
Finally created an account and planning on starting to upload next week during lunch hours and some evenings. Don't think I have any of the 94's but will start with what I got and will ensure I follow the same format. Sorry for the slowness, my 1 year old has been sick the past week!
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on November 26, 2017, 07:21:40 PM
Sounds great Kruykster, pleased to have you involved!

Update - I believe I have most of the 1994 shows resolved (a good old friend is willing to help with some of the rarer ones, and likely will get most added this coming week). So, it's a good time to tackle RTS. Things are looking really great so far.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on December 01, 2017, 02:20:40 AM
Everything from 1992-1994 is uploaded.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on December 01, 2017, 10:56:33 PM
Excellent, great work.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on December 02, 2017, 06:13:49 AM
I have a question for some wiser folks on here. It's about the Crows performance at the Rock and Roll HOF ceremony in 1993. In my research, the performance took place on Jan 12, 1993 (Simon's list says 16th, but I've found multiple sources quoting the 12th). And in recent years, that performance was released in digital MP3 format in a HOF compilation on amazon and itunes. Would it be against policy to add that performance of Caravan to the drive?
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on December 02, 2017, 01:10:04 PM
If people want to hear it they can listen to it on YouTube or buy it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvwoA-pheJk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvwoA-pheJk)
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on December 02, 2017, 03:34:48 PM
Yeah, I think if it can still be purchased, it's not fair game to add to the drive. If it's out of print (which at this point means not available online anymore), it would be fine.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on December 02, 2017, 04:53:52 PM
Makes sense
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on December 07, 2017, 07:59:17 PM
Hey guys, it's been a few weeks since we've uploaded anything for the RCS tour. Has everyone uploaded all that they have? If so I'll go about trying to get them by some other means. A lot is missing though. So I wanted to ask to see if we still have them around.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: thehappymundays on December 08, 2017, 12:44:05 AM
I don't have any with me over here just the two official shows .... I wish they would do a show where they played it from beginning to end
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on December 08, 2017, 12:20:52 PM
I have some more 1997 stuff to upload.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cfmwh on December 08, 2017, 01:35:34 PM
Looks like we're going to be busy then Colby!    ;)

Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: allenduritz on December 08, 2017, 05:17:43 PM
I have more 1996 shows I am going to upload now. 8)
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on December 09, 2017, 02:38:09 AM
Whew, thanks guys. Glad we still have more.


My computer is having issues since last night. So I may have trouble consistently checking the drive till I figure out what's wrong. If anyone is having an issue though let me know and I'll do what i can.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: raisemyglass on December 09, 2017, 04:56:22 PM
I am working on getting everything off of this hard drive (which is mac formatted) and onto my dropbox today so I can use my PC instead. I should be able to start uploading some stuff tomorrow.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: raisemyglass on December 11, 2017, 01:56:09 AM
I've got everything transferred off on my HD. I need to rename all the folders still before I can start moving folders. I dropped a couple of shows into the 1997 folder to make sure it was working properly. Hopefully I'll be able to get a bunch loaded starting tomorrow.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: raisemyglass on December 12, 2017, 04:11:37 AM
OK so I got about 75 shows uploaded today. Mostly in 1997, 2000, 2003, & 2007 folders. I have about 125 more from my HD to upload,  mostly in the 1999, 2000, 2002, 2006, & 2008 folders.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: yidosengland on December 12, 2017, 11:35:29 AM
Thanks Jason
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on December 12, 2017, 02:06:03 PM
Great work Jason, keep it up  :D
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: kamio on December 12, 2017, 02:40:27 PM
So I logged in the the share and receive a notification that about 40 GB and over 1k files were uploaded.. LOL
 
Thank you Jason for the massive upload!

If no one has done it yet... We'll eventually need to sit down and start checking off Simon's list to see what we have vs. what we need.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on December 12, 2017, 05:07:45 PM
So I logged in the the share and receive a notification that about 40 GB and over 1k files were uploaded.. LOL
 
Thank you Jason for the massive upload!

If no one has done it yet... We'll eventually need to sit down and start checking off Simon's list to see what we have vs. what we need.

Thanks again!

I've been working on that as I've gone, will update that now that Jason has done some uploading.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on December 12, 2017, 05:22:46 PM
Also, I'm adding a bunch of 1997 today.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: thehappymundays on December 13, 2017, 12:25:08 PM
OK so I got about 75 shows uploaded today. Mostly in 1997, 2000, 2003, & 2007 folders. I have about 125 more from my HD to upload,  mostly in the 1999, 2000, 2002, 2006, & 2008 folders.

incredible effort thanks
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: allenduritz on December 14, 2017, 12:46:38 AM
We are doing really well with the Shared Drive so far!  :)
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on December 14, 2017, 07:07:53 AM
So I logged in the the share and receive a notification that about 40 GB and over 1k files were uploaded.. LOL
 
Thank you Jason for the massive upload!

If no one has done it yet... We'll eventually need to sit down and start checking off Simon's list to see what we have vs. what we need.

Thanks again!

I've been keeping track (at least AAEA & RTS for now). Once we've uploaded what we have for RTS I'll make a list of what's missing.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on December 17, 2017, 08:11:30 PM
Just something i was wondering about we were not allowed to upload certain shows on Crowstown is it safe to asume those are also off limits for the drive?
Personally i think it's better to be safe than sorry and have the same rules that apply here but i don't know how everyone else feels about this.Yesterday i uploaded Good Danny's but i removed it today because i noticed it is still available on Daytrotter for members.The same goes for Codfish Hollow barn 2012 for that matter.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on December 18, 2017, 05:16:48 PM
Just something i was wondering about we were not allowed to upload certain shows on Crowstown is it safe to asume those are also off limits for the drive?
Personally i think it's better to be safe than sorry and have the same rules that apply here but i don't know how everyone else feels about this.Yesterday i uploaded Good Danny's but i removed it today because i noticed it is still available on Daytrotter for members.The same goes for Codfish Hollow barn 2012 for that matter.

Agreed. My assumption is that this is a full database of shows that are shareable, so nothing officially released that's not out of print.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on December 18, 2017, 07:21:41 PM
Actually i didn' t mean officially released but things that we were not suppose to share/ tape like Disney etc
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on December 19, 2017, 10:54:56 AM
I agree about Disney. But I'm not an expert on every show that's marked that way, so someone else will have to help safeguard against the others that shouldn't have been taped or shared.

Edit: Since we're on the subject, what do you guys think of the VH1 storytellers uncut version (with all the song commentary from Adam)?
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on December 19, 2017, 04:59:44 PM
In general i think everything seeded here should be okay for the drive so that would include Storytellers.I don't think it's a bad idea for a few of us to check for anything official or unofficial that could create a problem before the drive opens up to everyone.

Speaking of observations i'm pretty sure 2009-12-12 is in fact the pre Christmas jam 2009-12-11 also the tracks are all labeled 2017 so that could be a bit confusing too.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on December 20, 2017, 07:10:10 AM
Speaking of observations i'm pretty sure 2009-12-12 is in fact the pre Christmas jam 2009-12-11 also the tracks are all labeled 2017 so that could be a bit confusing too.

Thanks for catching that one. It is indeed the Prejam from 12-11-09. I forget where I got it (my comp is messed up right now so I can't access my copy) but the track titles were already like that. I agree, it's confusing. I corrected the date on the folder though so it's accurate now.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on December 20, 2017, 04:55:31 PM
I could have changed it myself but it just feels a bit weird touching someone else's stuff ;)
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on December 21, 2017, 06:18:09 AM
Well really this for all of crows-town to take part :) it may seem small, but catching mistakes like that so we can get everything right helps out a ton!
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on December 22, 2017, 04:58:09 PM
Since we are following Simon's database we have two 2003 folders one HC era one FAG era it's a bit confusing because some shows are in both folders.2003.10.26 is the last HC show and 2003.10.27 is the first date in FAG .
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on December 23, 2017, 07:55:26 AM
Yeah, I've noticed that some uploaders have put some shows in the wrong 2003 folder. Which is understandable... it's confusing. I've been checking that about every week and moving those files which are wrongly placed to the correct 2003 folder. The same is true of 2007 (NA & SNSM). No worries, I'll be sure to move/correct them as we go along.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on December 23, 2017, 12:45:40 PM
If it's already confusing for the uploaders it will be even more confusing when the share is open for visitors.When they search for a particular show in that year and it's not there most of them will not think oh yeah they used simons database i should look into another folder.
Maybe it's easier if we just had one folder for each year.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: yidosengland on December 23, 2017, 03:19:18 PM
maybe will be easier to follow if just had one folder per year regardless of tour
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on December 24, 2017, 09:16:03 AM
Hmmmm well if that's what we wanna do it can be changed up. It'll take some time though, it's a lot of files to move around. I'll have to figure out a time to get around to it. For right now let's just keep uploading with it where it is. There's a lot more to get done along with reorganizing that.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on December 24, 2017, 10:33:20 AM
There are not that many shows to be moved  (yet) the second 2003 folder only has 4 shows in it, one already has a duplicate in the other 2003 folder.2007 is about 7 shows that would have to be moved.
It's up to Kamio or yourself if you want to fix it or leave things the way they are,i'm just making observations and giving you my pushy opinion :)If i can help let me know.

Happy Holidays everyone !!
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on December 24, 2017, 02:52:08 PM
I thought, from yidosengland's post, that the suggestion was to get rid of Album Era folders and just have them by years? That's what would be more intensive. But what's probably much easier is just consolidating the extra 2007 & 2003 shows from SNSM and FAG with the other folders. I really like that, which would be easier to get done too.


Since this is really a whole CT project in my eyes, I'm trying to use input like yours and others as to what would work best :) so if the consolidation idea sounds fine, I'll implement it. I'll make sure Kamio likes it too.


Seconding the happy holidays!
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: kamio on December 24, 2017, 09:04:34 PM
I am with Cmstewart about reorganizing and getting rid of the album folders and making the root folders be based on year alone.  It would be extremely time intensive to do all that moving/organizing

I am all for keeping the structure the same and consolidating the respective year folders.  Simon set pattern for us, but I don't see why we can't make adjustments. 

I'd recommend that the smaller year be merged with the bigger year
So, move the 2003 FAG stuff to 2003 HC.. and the 2007 SNSM to 2007 NA...

We could rename the main folders to something like...
"2001-2003 HC & 2003 FAG Shows"
"2004-2005 FAG Shows"
etc..

If we decide to merge, do we then still have two 2003 folders? "2003 HC" and "2003 FAG"? or just dump everything into one big 2003 folder? These are the questions for discussion. 

I liked the album idea, because it helped you find a live show quickly.  For example, if I want to hear versions of "Good Times", I'll look for shows in HC folder.

At any rate, we can discuss.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on December 25, 2017, 07:57:09 PM
Most people that look for a show don't know if a 2003 show is HC or FAG or a 2007 show is SNSM or NA. Personally i don't feel the naming is really necessary and removing the smallest folder of those two years would be enough to solve any confusion.
I understand your Good Time example but a lot of songs could be on many setlist even songs of more recent albums like SNSM.FAG and NA are also released later than the songs that appear on them.I think the naming had more to do with the beginning and end of the tours.
Last but not least if you want to name by album i think you need to be consistent and updated that would mean a lot more work since we have one big 2010 and up folder.
Just some thoughts.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: kamio on December 25, 2017, 11:49:16 PM
Ok... I consolidated the folders.  There is only one 2003 and one 2007 folder.
The one with the least # of shows according to Simon's List was moved to the folder with the most shows.

This should help with any future confusion.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on December 26, 2017, 03:25:31 PM
Thanks Kamio.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on December 26, 2017, 09:36:13 PM
While you brought it up... since we don't have a full list of shows from 2010>>> .... I couldn't really judge from the start on the best way to organize that era. As that folder grows, I likely may divide it up by years as well. There's so many LCC shows from 2014 on, I thought some of those years may not have enough shareable shows to have a dedicated folder.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: kamio on December 27, 2017, 02:38:06 AM
So... want to do 2010-2013, with individual years under them ... then 2014-xxxx, with individual years under them?

Does anyone know the policy non-soundboard quality, (e.g from the crowd) recordings of shows that are posted on LCC?  I mean I seem them all over Youtube and it doesn't seem like anyone is making them take them down.  I get not sharing the LiveCC versions of those shows, but what about self-recorded from the audience?

On a side note, I want to thank you all again for your help and dedication.  I am planning on doing a "State of the Share" post soon.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on December 27, 2017, 07:25:08 AM
Since we're going by album eras, my opinion to make SNSM 2007-2010. Underwater Sunshine should be 2011-2013. And SUW should be 2014-XXXX. How's that sound? It seems Simon went by the year they recorded the albums, till the next album's recording began. So based on that, I believe those dates are accurate.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on December 27, 2017, 10:42:58 AM
If anything had changed about the taping policy since LCC started i asume the band would make that clear and someone here would know about it.
There have been plenty of audience recordings shared here and on torrentsites that have soundboard versions for sale on LCC.By sharing live music this site has always promoted the band and their shows i'm sure they are aware of that.I also don't think uploading/seeding a show here and there is any competition for LCC since many people prefer what they sell over an audience recording.
However i have wondered how the band/management will feel about this drive.I don't know what the exact plans are in the future but if it will be open for everyone and people can download unlimited whatever they want it will certainly be a lot more massive than anything that has been done before.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: kamio on December 28, 2017, 03:21:57 AM
If anything had changed about the taping policy since LCC started i asume the band would make that clear and someone here would know about it.

There used to be a taping policy on the CC website (the FAQ here at crows-town, links to it)  However, the link is dead, and I couldn't find anyone on there site about taping.

However i have wondered how the band/management will feel about this drive.I don't know what the exact plans are in the future but if it will be open for everyone and people can download unlimited whatever they want it will certainly be a lot more massive than anything that has been done before.

This also worries me.  My original goal was, and still is, to make it available to the public.

What I am afraid of, is if after all this work:

(1) We get a Cease and Desist letter and have to go private
(2) The hosting provider deletes my account and with it all the files we've been working on collecting
(3) Even worse, I get sued and have to deal with that.

Which is why I really would love to have a blessing from the band/management.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on December 28, 2017, 06:52:44 AM
If we are only sharing what is free and allowed to be shared, what problems do you foresee that the band may have with the drive? I hadn't really thought there would be a serious problem, but hearing the concerns you guys just voiced makes me second guess myself. Is it just the fact that it's so big and freely available to the public?


The way I have looked at it (and the way I hoped the band would, if they took a look at our project) is that the only reason I'm such a huge CC fan is because I discovered their live bootlegs. Had I not, I wouldn't have had the insight into how great they are. It made me begin attending more shows and buy all their cds. I am sure getting these shows to fans everywhere will have the same effect on others. Without a tracker, Crows Town really died down. I can only believe that something like this can grow it again, and raise interest in the band. I appreciate what Kamio did to kick the project off, and I too wouldn't want to see his and everyone's hard work get thwarted.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: yidosengland on December 29, 2017, 11:42:20 AM
the band has always been very good allowing audience audio taping and sharing of shows , I wouldnt have thought any shows other than those available to purchase on LCC would present a problem other than perhaps the Disney show

not sure if we can still contact Lisa from the old Anna Begins site or maybe even Andrew (Duritzfan13) may be able to get a little clarification
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on January 02, 2018, 10:37:01 AM

I know it was done with the best intentions but i would like to know if converting lossless shows into MP3 and adding that to the share was a one time thing or will it be the new normal if more people request shows in MP3.For me personally that really is a bridge too far.
People like Simon and many others have worked so hard not only to find shows for us we didn't have yet but also to find the best lossless versions so we could replace the lossy often much worse copies we had.
If it wasn't for them we would not have the amount and quality of shows we have today.The only thing they asked in return can be found on almost any disclaimer here :
Do not sell,do not encode to MP3 or any other lossy format unless it's for personal use only.

Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 02, 2018, 05:27:56 PM
If the mp3 is sitting next to FLAC, it doesn't bother me. No one's burning this to CD and re-ripping to mp3 anymore.

Working on 1999 today - glad to see we're so far along already!
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 02, 2018, 09:41:08 PM
I know it was done with the best intentions but i would like to know if converting lossless shows into MP3 and adding that to the share was a one time thing or will it be the new normal if more people request shows in MP3.For me personally that really is a bridge too far.
People like Simon and many others have worked so hard not only to find shows for us we didn't have yet but also to find the best lossless versions so we could replace the lossy often much worse copies we had.
If it wasn't for them we would not have the amount and quality of shows we have today.The only thing they asked in return can be found on almost any disclaimer here :
Do not sell,do not encode to MP3 or any other lossy format unless it's for personal use only.

I agree with you about having the BEST quality copy uploaded to the drive. And trust me, I am doing EVERYTHING I possibly can to get those copies, especially if no one else has them. But unfortunately there are some shows that no one here currently has in its pure form. And in that case, we're getting what we do have up until that better copy arises. Many of the really rare shows I've worked really hard to hunt down and upload I had to get direct from tapers or other collectors anyway, not only from Simon's collection. So this drive is really a mix of stuff from a lot of places. I also agree with cmigs that I don't care if both a FLAC and MP3 copy is added, because a lot of people would like to have both for different purposes. The important thing is that once the lossless copy is on the drive, it will always be available to fans.

I too am really pleased with how far we've come.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 02, 2018, 10:24:44 PM
I am also trying to add FLAC wherever we have only mp3 or m4a available. But I don't feel like that means we need to delete the version that's already up there.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: kamio on January 03, 2018, 05:00:31 AM

I know it was done with the best intentions but i would like to know if converting lossless shows into MP3 and adding that to the share was a one time thing or will it be the new normal if more people request shows in MP3.For me personally that really is a bridge too far.

You hit the nail on the head... I did the convert because it was requested and I truly had the best intentions. 

I, personally, in the future will no longer do converts from FLAC to lossless.  I will provide the link to the FLAC and leave the conversion to the requester.   

I will however still continue to convert old lossy (APE/SHN) to FLAC as I see them.

Thanks for the reminder (re: no MP3 converts, unless for personal use)

Dutchie: Since I think you uploaded the Flying Demos;  If you would like I will remove the MP3 convert I did from the Share at your request.  Please let me know.

Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on January 03, 2018, 03:08:47 PM
Good to hear some more opinions ,i agree with most of it so maybe i need to clarify some things.
In the ideal situation the lossless shows would be in Flac,Ape or SHN and the lossy shows in M4A or MP3.However if we don't have a certain lossless show i would rather see a lossy version than no show at all.
I also understand that some people have converted their lossless shows to lossy format for personal use and are now uploading them because they no longer have the original format.If a show is in M4A and someone adds it in Flac later it's okay to leave it in two formats i guess.
However if a show is already in the drive in Flac i really feel we don't need to add a lossy format later or convert it.If people want it in a different format they should convert it themselves just like any show that was downloaded from Crowstown before.
My comment was a reaction to Flying Demos being converted.It's a show that has been shared in lossy format very often.Here on CT we have a fine lossless copy that i asume almost all of us have so i felt there really was no need to convert it back to MP3 again and add those to the dive.If it had been some random show i may not have reacted the way i did.
Kamio APE and SHN are also (old) lossless formats so if you convert them to FLac it still remains lossless (lossless is good and what we prefer )
None of these recordings are mine and this drive is a joined effort so you can do whatever you want with them.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 03, 2018, 04:12:33 PM
Good to hear some more opinions ,i agree with most of it so maybe i need to clarify some things.
In the ideal situation the lossless shows would be in Flac,Ape or SHN and the lossy shows in M4A or MP3.However if we don't have a certain lossless show i would rather see a lossy version than no show at all.
I also understand that some people have converted their lossless shows to lossy format for personal use and are now uploading them because they no longer have the original format.If a show is in M4A and someone adds it in Flac later it's okay to leave it in two formats i guess.
However if a show is already in the drive in Flac i really feel we don't need to add a lossy format later or convert it.If people want it in a different format they should convert it themselves just like any show that was downloaded from Crowstown before.
My comment was a reaction to Flying Demos being converted.It's a show that has been shared in lossy format very often.Here on CT we have a fine lossless copy that i asume almost all of us have so i felt there really was no need to convert it back to MP3 again and add those to the dive.If it had been some random show i may not have reacted the way i did.
Kamio APE and SHN are also (old) lossless formats so if you convert them to FLac it still remains lossless (lossless is good and what we prefer )
None of these recordings are mine and this drive is a joined effort so you can do whatever you want with them.

Fair point on the Flying Demos - that's a tape that's very likely to be passed around and it's a good thing to have it in the best quality possible.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 03, 2018, 04:33:49 PM
The ones I'm adding today are fresh rips from Jason (dstryr712) who's been going through the batch of discs Dan Anderson sent me a while ago.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on January 04, 2018, 01:44:30 PM
Isn't it easier if we add Flac to a folder that already excist that the Flac is in a seperate file added to that same folder.Similar to Disc one disc two.
I noticed several shows recently added (2000) have both formats mixed in the same file so i asume if you want to download it in just one format you either have to download the whole thing and remove the ones you don't want or click on the particular songs in the format you want manually.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 04, 2018, 03:03:55 PM
Hey Dutchie, thanks for the genuine thoughts. I think we're on the same page. The ONLY reason I still leave the lossy (or lesser) copy when I add the lossless copy is because there are some shows I personally have that are lossless, but have some sort of error to it. Like, the person who shared it with me ripped it from a cd with some scratches or something, so I'm hearing clicks/skips in a few songs, but the lossy copy is cleaner in those points (since it came from a different collector). Or, where the lossless copy is missing a song, but the lossy one somehow has it. So I tend to use both if necessary. Just in case there are situations where the lossless copy isn't perfect, having a second copy can be of benefit. I think what we'd both agree on is that we need the lossless copies on there if at all possible. I don't want to violate anyone's standards with lossy stuff, but I just wanted this to be as complete as it possibly can be. Does that sound alright?

And I agree with you that sometimes things have been added to the same folder, making a mess. That's something I want to go back and organize. I think it's best to label the date-folder with the formats it contains (FLAC/MP3/APE, etc) and then have a subfolder with each copy/format separate. I see no reason not to get those things organized.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 04, 2018, 03:28:25 PM
Isn't it easier if we add Flac to a folder that already excist that the Flac is in a seperate file added to that same folder.Similar to Disc one disc two.
I noticed several shows recently added (2000) have both formats mixed in the same file so i asume if you want to download it in just one format you either have to download the whole thing and remove the ones you don't want or click on the particular songs in the format you want manually.

Sorry about that, thought it was easy enough to distinguish. Will always make separate folders in the future.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on January 04, 2018, 05:04:20 PM
It's easy to distinguish just less convenient if you want to download in one go.Sorry i know i can be a pain in the ass,it's the perfectionist in me.

Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 04, 2018, 08:46:15 PM
It's easy to distinguish just less convenient if you want to download in one go.Sorry i know i can be a pain in the ass,it's the perfectionist in me.



No worries, it's a fair point and very little extra work.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on January 05, 2018, 02:00:57 PM
Stewart i think we're on the same page too.I agree the subfolder works best, a lot of shows are already like that so we could fix the ones that are mixed up.
Do you know where we stand regarding the amount of space we have available.I asume we are using more space than planned with the multiple formats.
Also there is an empty DVD folder are we planning to upload those too ?
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on January 05, 2018, 02:06:51 PM
Question for someone with more audioknowledge than me.If i have a show in Flac but the format is smaller than normal Flac but bigger than normal Lossy.Does that mean it's most likely some kind of rip and therefore lossy ? I wasn't sure so i added Lossy to be safe.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 05, 2018, 04:40:45 PM
Question for someone with more audioknowledge than me.If i have a show in Flac but the format is smaller than normal Flac but bigger than normal Lossy.Does that mean it's most likely some kind of rip and therefore lossy ? I wasn't sure so i added Lossy to be safe.

Is it an acoustic show? The size of FLAC files depends in part on the amount of information in them. So, a full band show will have larger files than an acoustic show.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on January 05, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
No i think it was a normal show 2001-10-20. The size is similar to The backyard Austin that i also uploaded,i know that one was a rip from Anton's video and lossy.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: allenduritz on January 06, 2018, 07:54:05 AM
I am trying to figure out on sync if  2000.02.10 Las Vegas FLAC  is labeled correctly.
Also, deleted the FLAC on 2000.01.23_Ariel Houston because it was the wrong show.

Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on January 06, 2018, 06:53:45 PM
Allen it's not, it looks like they played Vegas 2000.10.02 and there was no show on 2002.02.10 I know in the past some people labeled their shows European style so day first then month that could cause the mix up.

It looks like we uploaded about 220 GB so far.Not bad :)
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: allenduritz on January 06, 2018, 08:09:49 PM
Thank you for clarifying this.  :)
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 07, 2018, 05:38:07 AM
Apologies, I assumed it was in February since they played Seattle right before. But I guess it was labeled "European style."

What show was that 1.23 upload? I uploaded the FLAC files for that.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 07, 2018, 05:49:35 AM
Question for someone with more audioknowledge than me.If i have a show in Flac but the format is smaller than normal Flac but bigger than normal Lossy.Does that mean it's most likely some kind of rip and therefore lossy ? I wasn't sure so i added Lossy to be safe.

It could be lossy. I have copies of some shows (multiples in FLAC) where one has been upsampled (meaning it was lossy, but converted to FLAC) and the other is lossless. And the Lossless version is bigger. I am REALLY not an expert, but I just trust this simple app called Lossless Audio Checker > http://losslessaudiochecker.com/ (http://losslessaudiochecker.com/) -- you just drop the FLAC file in and it tells you if it's 'Clean', Upsampled, or Transcoded. One of the things I'm doing is checking some lossless FLAC shows and if they aren't clean, still searching out the better copy, if there is one.

And as for space... we should have plenty. It's 2TB of space. I figure -- if we have 1200 shows (I'm high balling that, but I don't know the actual number since Simon stoped in 09) and they average 500MB per show (also high balling), that totals 600GB. If we have some duplicates, maybe that's 700. Then with DVDs, somewhere around 1TB. But we'd still have about a TB left for dups and/or future shows. I can't imagine us coming close to maxing it out anytime soon.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on January 07, 2018, 02:08:52 PM
Never mind i removed it,i'm sure Chris or someone else has it in lossless Flac.Since i already filled the gaps a few years ago i know i don't have anything that Chris or Adam don't already have so i'm uploading ahead of Chris and if i come across another one that is lossy flac but should be lossless i just skip it to avoid confusion.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 08, 2018, 01:55:30 AM

UPDATE FOR RCS ERA

As of now we have every show except 4 for the 1995-1997 years. We're also missing one alternative source of 1 show. Here's the list:

12.09.96 Beacon Theater New York, NY
01.31.97 Orpheum Theater Memphis, TN
03.17.97 Murat Theater Indianapolis, IN
04.10.97 Tonight Show With Jay Leno Burbank, CA
08.12.97 Chelsea Studios, New York, NY (We have the 7-track portion from 'Unplugged' - but we're missing the Uncut liberated boot on Simon's list)

Also, I am still getting in some lossless/better copies of RCS shows which we only have in MP3/M4a formats. Hopefully I'll get everything finished by the end of the week. Then I'll start filling gaps in on TDL.

If you have any of the 5 shows listed or think you can get them easily, let me know. Otherwise I'll keep chasing them till I find em. Great work!
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: allenduritz on January 08, 2018, 09:10:36 PM
Has anyone contacted Simon for his help with the shared drive? He did spend a lot of time creating the spreadsheet. That was/is dedication.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on January 09, 2018, 05:52:26 PM
Stewart i used the losslessaudiochecker but that can't be right,so many things came back as unsampled stuff that was seeded here but also on Dime .Weird.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 09, 2018, 06:23:42 PM
I'm done with adding in 2000 for now. Will start on the Hard Candy era stuff in a day or so. I have this sneaking suspicion I have more shows on a different hard drive, but haven't had the chance to do a deep dive yet and want to keep making progress.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 09, 2018, 08:53:33 PM
Stewart i used the losslessaudiochecker but that can't be right,so many things came back as unsampled stuff that was seeded here but also on Dime .Weird.

Hmmm yeah, I can't vouch for how accurate it is honestly. Like I said, I'm no expert. That's why I resorted to such a simple app to check mine. I have found it to be somewhat reliable with mine. I discovered the the Telluride 2007 show was not lossless, which turned out to be the case. Same with the Face the Promised Land CD.  But to know for sure someone with more knowledge will have to analyze the tracks.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: lewislfowler on January 10, 2018, 11:36:36 PM

Hi, just seeing this thread. I have a bunch of stuff I could contribute if you guys are interested. List of what I have can be seen here: http://takearide.tumblr.com/post/169556034593


Unfortunately, they are  all mp3s so can exclude ones that we have lossy if you wish.


I tried contributing to the facebook group but found that system too confusing.


Also, in regards to Dan's list... how can I download this show? I was there.
Counting Crows 05/20/14
The McKittrick Hotel, New York, NY



Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: strickamania on January 11, 2018, 01:51:04 AM
It may be right in front of my face but, how do we access these uploaded shows?
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 11, 2018, 03:48:45 AM
It may be right in front of my face but, how do we access these uploaded shows?

Right now, the only people with full access are those uploading shows.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 11, 2018, 07:13:33 AM
Strickamania rest assured we're working as hard as we can to get this drive completed for you and everyone to access. There's a lot going into locating/uploading everything and getting it ready to share publicly. It Will happen.... just will take some more time.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 11, 2018, 06:54:10 PM
There's a 2003.02.21 show from Manchester in the drive, but I don't think that's a correct date (based on the Crows' site and Simon's spreadsheet), but there's no .txt file to review in there. This is likely a 2004 show (there's a 2004.02.21 date that does exist).
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 11, 2018, 07:13:55 PM
You seem to be correct Chris. I found the txt file (in the Disc 2 folder) and it also has 2003 written on it. But the setlist and source info listed in it is the same as what Simon has for the 2004 show. Looks like we'll have to adjust the dates on all of that.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on January 11, 2018, 09:36:22 PM

I uploaded that one ,the database i have has manchester  listed in 2003.02.21 and 2004.02.21 the same setlist so i asume one is not correct. I asume i thought it was 2003 because that date was in the database and on the textfile .I agree it's most likely 2004.Thanks for catching that one Chris.


Moved it and fixed the textfile weird they had the wrong year twice on that one.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 13, 2018, 01:49:05 PM
I just learned that Sync updated their interface & now we can drag and drop FOLDERS!!! Thought I'd share that in case it makes uploading easier for everyone.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 14, 2018, 12:25:19 AM
I just learned that Sync updated their interface & now we can drag and drop FOLDERS!!! Thought I'd share that in case it makes uploading easier for everyone.

That will make things way easier.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on January 14, 2018, 04:13:41 PM
Somewhat related,are they working on LCC ?

http://livecountingcrows.com/ (http://livecountingcrows.com/)
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: rmeira on January 14, 2018, 06:09:07 PM
That domain is for sale ..... did you type correctly?
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: allenduritz on January 14, 2018, 09:33:48 PM
If liveCountingCrows does not return I guess we can upload the shows from there hahaha...However, I found it here.     http://nugs.net/search/counting%20crows
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: kamio on January 14, 2018, 11:46:50 PM
Everything from 1992-1994 is uploaded.

Went through and noticed these shows missing from this era:

11.07.94    City Hall Newcastle, England
11.23.94    The Docks Hamburg, Germany

Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: kamio on January 14, 2018, 11:59:42 PM

UPDATE FOR RCS ERA

As of now we have every show except 4 for the 1995-1997 years. We're also missing one alternative source of 1 show. Here's the list:

12.09.96 Beacon Theater New York, NY
01.31.97 Orpheum Theater Memphis, TN
03.17.97 Murat Theater Indianapolis, IN
04.10.97 Tonight Show With Jay Leno Burbank, CA
08.12.97 Chelsea Studios, New York, NY (We have the 7-track portion from 'Unplugged' - but we're missing the Uncut liberated boot on Simon's list)

Also, I am still getting in some lossless/better copies of RCS shows which we only have in MP3/M4a formats. Hopefully I'll get everything finished by the end of the week. Then I'll start filling gaps in on TDL.

If you have any of the 5 shows listed or think you can get them easily, let me know. Otherwise I'll keep chasing them till I find em. Great work!

Double checked and I noticed the following missing:

10.16.96    World Album Premier FM Radio
11.04.96    The Edge' Interview
11.24.96    AJ Palumbo Center Pittsburgh, PA
12.09.96    Beacon Theater New York, NY
12.18.96    Wiltern Theatre Los Angeles, CA

01.23.97    Music Hall Houston, TX
01.27.97    Brady Theatre Tulsa, OK
01.31.97    Orpheum Theater Memphis, TN
02.01.97    Saenger Performing Arts Center New Orleans, LA
02.03.97    Andrew Jackson Hall Nashville, TN
02.12.97    The Roxy Atlanta, GA
02.19.97    Palace Theatre Louisville, KY
03.11.97    Aragon Ballroom Chicago, IL
03.17.97    Murat Theater Indianapolis, IN
04.05.97    Irvine Meadows Irvine, CA
04.10.97    Tonight Show With Jay Leno Burbank, CA
08.12.97    Chelsea Studios New York, NY  VH1 Storytellers  (not sure if we can upload this or not)
09.05.97     The Gorge George, WA
11.02.97     Bob Carpenter Center Newark, DE
11.06.97    Hammerstein Ballroom New York City, NY 

Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: kamio on January 15, 2018, 12:12:24 AM
What's missing from TDL era (1998-2000)

04.20.98     The Viper Room Los Angeles, CA

07.01.99    Pop Club Los Angeles, CA
07.08.99    Jack Singer Hall Calgary, Canada
07.20.99    Lupo's Heartbreak Hotel Providence, RI
08.18.99    Fox Theater Denver, CO  (not sure of the status on this one -- tradeable?)
10.16.99    Twee Meter Sessies Amsterdam, Holland
10.18.99    Denk ann Henk Amsterdam, Holland 
10.29.99    9:30 Club Washington DC
11.18.99    Ed Sullivan Theatre New York, NY
12.03.99    Saltair Pavillion Salt Lake City, UT
12.09.99    Wiltern Theater Los Angeles, CA
12.10.99    Wiltern Theater Los Angeles, CA
12.17.99    World Cafe WXPN New York, NY

01.20.00    Aragon Ballroom Chicago, IL
01.26.00    Austin City Colloseum Austin, TX
02.09.00    Tonight Show With Jay Leno Burbank, CA
02.25.00    BBC Radio Interview, Wales  (we got the show on the same day, just not this set)
03.xx.00    Toazted.nl, Holland  (an interview... might be intresting to secure this)
03.06.00    The Paradiso Amsterdam, Holland
03.12.00    Rockefeller Oslo, Norway
03.20.00    E-Werk Cologne, Germany
03.24.00    Colosseum Munchen, Germany
03.27.00    Alcatraz Milan, Italy
04.03.00    Olympia Dublin, Ireland
05.17.00    Omaha Civic Center Omaha, NE
05.19.00    Mark of the Quad Cities Moline, IL         
05.25.00    War Memorial Coliseum Fort Wayne, IN
06.05.00    Heineken Green Energy Festival Munster Showgrounds Cork, Ireland
06.09.00    Rock Am Ring Germany
06.11.00    Rock Im Park Centre Stage Nurnburg Frankenstadion, Germany
06.12.00    Pinkpop Festival Landgraaf, Holland
06.18.00    Heineken Jammin' Festival Bologna, Italy
07.04.00    Quartsfestival 2000 Bendusbukt Odderoya Kristiansand, Norway
08.09.00    Blossom Amphitheater Cuyahoga Falls, OH
08.11.00    Blockbuster-Sony Music Entertainment Center Camden, NJ
08.14.00    Saratoga Performing Arts Center Saratoga Springs, NY
08.29.00    Molson Center Montreal, PQ
08.31.00    Darien Lakes PAC Darien Center, NY
09.16.00    The Gorge George, WA
09.17.00    Rose Garden Portland, OR 
10.03.00    Desert Sky Amphitheater Phoenix, AZ
10.13.00    AmSouth Amphitheatre Antioch, TN
10.16.00    Blockbuster Pavillion Charlotte, NC
10.17.00    Alltel Pavillion at Walnut Creek Raleigh, NC
10.22.00    TD Waterhouse Center Orlando, FL
10.24.00    Worlds Fair Park Amphitheatre Knoxville, TN
10.27.00    Oak Mountain Amphitheatre Pelham, AL
11.29.00    Warfield Theater San Francisco, CA

Also... the famously rare Shim-Sham show (it's listed as 05.03.99 on Simon's list, but the folder on the share is 04.xx.99)
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 15, 2018, 01:56:49 AM
If liveCountingCrows does not return I guess we can upload the shows from there hahaha...However, I found it here.     http://nugs.net/search/counting%20crows (http://nugs.net/search/counting%20crows)

DUDE!!! I know!!! I was just looking up livecountingcrows like 10 mins ago and saw it was down. Wtf is going on there?? There's still some shows I wanna buy, when I get paid that is.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 15, 2018, 02:00:57 AM
Hey Kamio, some of those listed don't have a circulated tape. I think it's confusing cause there are some Simon added the setlist even when there isn't a recording. The ones with circulated recordings are just the ones with "lossless" or "lossy" listed in the far right.

And the Hammerstein Ballroom one on 11/06/97 I declined to add because it was released on "Across a Wire"... though a couple songs were left off that. So it's an official release.

There are still about 4 or 5 for 96-97 I'm trying to get, and hopefully will in the near future. Right now I'm finishing my uploading of lossless copies of 97 shows. Should get that done tonight, then I'll try to fill in missing spots in TDL.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: kamio on January 15, 2018, 02:58:50 AM
lol.. no worries... I've been negligent in following what has been uploaded and hasn't been uploaded in the recent months. I also misread how Simon tracked in his Excel, I thought if he put a set list it was circulated.

I'll leave the tracking to the experts.  ;)

I want to thank everyone involved for all there hard work and efforts with respect to the Share.

Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 15, 2018, 04:51:45 AM
I was just thinking that if anyone has any existing artwork for shows, or even photos of if you were there, it'd be cool to add those on the drive too.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 15, 2018, 05:47:41 AM
I was just thinking that if anyone has any existing artwork for shows, or even photos of if you were there, it'd be cool to add those on the drive too.

If I have artwork, it's usually in the folder with the show and gets uploaded. Someone else may have a better archive of artwork.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 15, 2018, 06:32:06 AM
Finished all my uploading of 1996/7 and for now we're just missing:

12.09.96
01.31.97
03.17.97
04.10.97
08.12.97 (VH1-The Uncut Version)

And we're missing lossless versions of:

12.07.96
02.13.97

That's all that's left for RCS. Also, I noticed we uploaded SPAC, Saratoga Springs, NY 1997 twice - both have identical files in them but one is on 07.20, which is an incorrect date. I decided to delete that one since they are the same files and there's no need to have 2. Hopefully we can get those few that are missing at some point. On to TDL! Great work ladies and gents.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on January 15, 2018, 04:07:53 PM
Kamio someone figured out the actual Shim Sham date later that's why the folder is labeled that way but the date was adjusted in the Database.

I seem to have three interviews
2000.03.xx Toazted ( TDL interview)
2002.05.xx Toazted ( HC interview)
2003.xx.xx MSN (HC Interview) this one has some official songs but just parts of it not full songs.

Since these are interviews and we don't have exact dates where should i put them ?
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 15, 2018, 08:24:54 PM
Kamio someone figured out the actual Shim Sham date later that's why the folder is labeled that way but the date was adjusted in the Database.

I seem to have three interviews
2000.03.xx Toazted ( TDL interview)
2002.05.xx Toazted ( HC interview)
2003.xx.xx MSN (HC Interview) this one has some official songs but just parts of it not full songs.

Since these are interviews and we don't have exact dates where should i put them ?

I wouldn't mind if you labelled them like that with the XX in place of unknown days. I think Simon used that on his spreadsheet for Toazted, though he used a different date format overall.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 16, 2018, 04:43:20 PM
Agreed, I think we just label them as we have them.

Working on 2003 today.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 16, 2018, 05:34:08 PM
Here's an inventory of TDL. It looks like this is what we're missing:

04.20.98 The Viper Room, Los Angeles

07.20.99 Lupo's Heartbrek Hotel, Providence
10.16.99 Twee Meter Sessions, Amsterdam
10.18.99 Denk ann Henk, Amsterdam
11.18.99 Ed Sullivan Theatre, New York (Letterman)
12.02.99 "Black Hat" Magness Arena, Denver
12.17.99 World Cafe, New York

01.20.00 Aragon Ballroom, Chicago
02.09.00 Tonight Show with Jay Leno, Burbank
03.24.00 Colosseum, Munchen
05.17.00 Omaha Civic Center, Omaha
05.19.00 Mark of the Quad Cities, Moline
06.11.00 Rock Im Park, Nurnburg Frankenstadion
06.12.00 Pinkpop, Landgraaf
06.23.00 Glastonbury Festival, Pilton (Full AUD Source)
08.31.00 Darien Lakes PAC, Darien Center
09.17.00 Rose Garden, Portland
10.17.00 Alltel Pavillion, Charlotte
10.22.00 TD Warehouse Center, Orlando

Anyone think they have any of these or is everyone done with their TDL collections?
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 16, 2018, 05:42:03 PM
I think there's a compilation I may have that has all the World Cafe performances - let me look.

I think Black Hat was just a bootleg commercial release of the FM broadcast already on there. I know I shared an incomplete version of it on CT a long time ago (I only had the first disc of Black Hat from a record store).
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 16, 2018, 05:54:37 PM
Yeah Simon's list only has disc 1. I haven't heard that copy, so I didn't know if there were any differences between it and the other one. But since Simon separated them on the list, I figured there was something different about it (besides it being incomplete). If you have it feel free to upload it. We have the space.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 16, 2018, 06:08:51 PM
I would also note that with anything where there's a video source (like TV performances), we can always do a fresh rip from the video. I plan on doing the video dump last, but if there's video of shows we need audio for, I can push that to the front of my queue.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 16, 2018, 06:41:47 PM
I would also note that with anything where there's a video source (like TV performances), we can always do a fresh rip from the video. I plan on doing the video dump last, but if there's video of shows we need audio for, I can push that to the front of my queue.

Yeah, I think you can wait and if after everyone uploads everything we still don't have it, then rip the videos. I have wondered about the quality of video rips. Because I know from the AAEA Live Compilation that the Pinkpop 2000 Round Here sounded amazing and is lossless, but when I'd rip the video it didn't have the same quality. Maybe I just didn't have the best video, but I haven't had audio from video rips come out lossless yet. I'm sure you & others know more about it than I do.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 16, 2018, 07:45:27 PM
I would also note that with anything where there's a video source (like TV performances), we can always do a fresh rip from the video. I plan on doing the video dump last, but if there's video of shows we need audio for, I can push that to the front of my queue.

Yeah, I think you can wait and if after everyone uploads everything we still don't have it, then rip the videos. I have wondered about the quality of video rips. Because I know from the AAEA Live Compilation that the Pinkpop 2000 Round Here sounded amazing and is lossless, but when I'd rip the video it didn't have the same quality. Maybe I just didn't have the best video, but I haven't had audio from video rips come out lossless yet. I'm sure you & others know more about it than I do.

I honestly don't know a ton about it - have never done it myself (although I've done some work with videos on Handbrake and the like). Part of the issue of getting video from audio is what the audio source on the video is (which is why a lot of the video rips on Simon's list are lossy).
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on January 16, 2018, 09:30:06 PM
Pinkpop can have diffent sources it's on tv, internet,radio, there are soundboard and audience recordings.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 17, 2018, 12:24:19 AM
Pinkpop can have diffent sources it's on tv, internet,radio, there are soundboard and audience recordings.

Yeah, that's probably why the video rip I had wasn't as good. I've never heard the other sources of it though, besides Round Here.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: raisemyglass on January 18, 2018, 04:08:20 AM
Here's an inventory of TDL. It looks like this is what we're missing:

04.20.98 The Viper Room, Los Angeles

07.20.99 Lupo's Heartbrek Hotel, Providence
10.16.99 Twee Meter Sessions, Amsterdam
10.18.99 Denk ann Henk, Amsterdam
11.18.99 Ed Sullivan Theatre, New York (Letterman)
12.02.99 "Black Hat" Magness Arena, Denver
12.17.99 World Cafe, New York

01.20.00 Aragon Ballroom, Chicago
02.09.00 Tonight Show with Jay Leno, Burbank
03.24.00 Colosseum, Munchen
05.17.00 Omaha Civic Center, Omaha
05.19.00 Mark of the Quad Cities, Moline
06.11.00 Rock Im Park, Nurnburg Frankenstadion
06.12.00 Pinkpop, Landgraaf
06.23.00 Glastonbury Festival, Pilton (Full AUD Source)
08.31.00 Darien Lakes PAC, Darien Center
09.17.00 Rose Garden, Portland
10.17.00 Alltel Pavillion, Charlotte
10.22.00 TD Warehouse Center, Orlando

Anyone think they have any of these or is everyone done with their TDL collections?

I'll look in my storage boxes this weekend and see what I have on cdr. I know I don't have any of these saved on the HD, but I think I have a few of these on discs. Just a matter of finding them.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 18, 2018, 12:00:35 PM
Sounds great, if you can't find them let me know and I'll start hunting everywhere I can to locate them.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 18, 2018, 07:03:58 PM
Finished all my uploading of 1996/7 and for now we're just missing:

01.31.97


Found this one in mp3. Will upload.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 18, 2018, 09:41:22 PM
Great find :)
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on January 20, 2018, 04:36:26 PM

Found another 2002 interview 103.7 kmtt mountain lounge this one has a few full songs during the interview .Upload or not ?


http://crows-town.com/index.php?topic=4341.msg40840#msg40840
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 20, 2018, 08:02:15 PM
Yeah! I haven't heard that one. It seems the date is a ?. But from the location, sometime in 07/2002 may be a good guess?
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on January 21, 2018, 07:46:37 PM
They talk about playing American Girls on Letterman about a week before that was on 07-11-2002 so it has to be July .
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 22, 2018, 04:26:55 AM
Yeah, though the exact day is a mystery, there seems to be little doubt that the month is July.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 22, 2018, 06:31:52 PM
Okay, the 1997 stuff I found is uploading now. Following that with some more 2001.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on January 24, 2018, 04:17:09 PM
I've got all the lossless 2001 stuff I have up.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 28, 2018, 02:14:52 AM
Sounds great Chris. I'm still making efforts to fill gaps in the 98-2000 portion. I'm hoping to have it done once we have all our HC stuff up. And then I'll do the same with there.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 29, 2018, 11:07:36 AM
I had a friend find a discrepancy in one of the shows on the drive, and wondered if anyone here can help sort it out. 12/15/1997 was Guldhall Portsmouth, England, but in the txt file it says "Clyde Auditorium, Glasgow Scotland" as the venue - which actually took place 2 nights later (12/17/1997). On Simon's db, he has in the info portion of the 12/15 show as "Clyde Auditorium" as well, but the title of the show says Guldhall, Portsmouth, England. So it has both? I'm thinking maybe it was a mistake in whoever wrote the txt file, but I have no way to verify. Maybe someone is familiar with that boot and can verify if the recording itself really is the Portsmouth show? I'd like to figure it out and get it corrected, if possible.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on January 29, 2018, 02:28:40 PM
I listened to a few songs and it seems everything is correct, both shows, setlists,dates the only thing wrong is the venue and place in the textfile of 12-15-1997 that should be Guldhall Portsmouth, England not Clyde Auditorium, Glasgow Scotland.
I asume what was seeded here was corrrect.

http://crows-town.com/index.php?topic=1794.msg11126#msg11126 (http://crows-town.com/index.php?topic=1794.msg11126#msg11126)

http://crows-town.com/index.php?topic=1795.msg11127#msg11127 (http://crows-town.com/index.php?topic=1795.msg11127#msg11127)
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 30, 2018, 11:33:30 AM
That was my guess too, just wanted to be sure. I'm gonna correct the txt file to avoid confusion on it down the road. Thanks!
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on January 30, 2018, 07:09:47 PM
Does anyone happen to have Pinkpop 2000? I was able to get the FM version, but it's a lossy-flac copy (there should a lossless one). I'm confused how many sources there are though? Cause Simon shared a copy in 2008 that he called a "Unknown Audience" recording. I though the FM was SBD though? So.. I'm hoping someone here has the one Simon shared.


 http://crows-town.com/index.php?topic=1920.msg12137#msg12137
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on February 06, 2018, 05:47:19 PM
Adding a bunch more 2003 today. Might take the day or so for it all to get up there.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on February 06, 2018, 06:06:57 PM
Also, looking ahead - I've got the two tapes we need to complete 2006!
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on February 07, 2018, 08:38:01 PM
Adding the two 2006 shows and then will circle back to 2004. Done with the HC era for now.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on February 08, 2018, 07:26:51 PM
Big batch of 2004 going up.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on February 09, 2018, 07:49:07 AM
I have a CD rip of the "Live European Summer Tour 2000 Commemorative Sampler" which has some songs from a few 1999 shows. All SBD recordings.

2 are from Magness Arena, Denver, CO 12/02/99
3 are from Hammerstien Ballroom, NY, NY 11/07/99
1 is from the Fox Theater, Boulder, CO 08/17/99

I figured out that the 2 from Denver are similar to the FTPL album, but are lossless (that disc is lossy). Hammerstein show was never released in full, so that's the only release of anything from it. Fox Theater seem identical to the High Life bootleg (Omaha). Would you guys rather me just put this disc in the Compilations section as a whole, or put the tracks in the corresponding show's folder? Or both? Since Omaha is identical to High Life, I don't see the point there. But the other 2 are unique, so I thought I'd get y'alls opinions.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on February 09, 2018, 06:16:02 PM
I think it probably makes the most sense to drop these in the show folders.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on February 10, 2018, 02:54:41 AM
I think it probably makes the most sense to drop these in the show folders.

Alright, I'll do that!
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on February 12, 2018, 09:50:24 PM
Dropping a lot of 2008 stuff in the drive.


Also, looks like I have a ton of 2009 to go through - lot of shows with multiple sources (or maybe remasters)? Will be a bit of a process to go through.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on February 13, 2018, 04:34:43 PM
That's fine. I finished uploading ALL the TDL stuff I could get from friends, and here's the final list on what we're missing:

11/18/1999 Ed Sullivan Theatre, New York, NY

03/24/2000 Colosseum, Munchen, Germany
05/17/2000 Omaha Civic Center, Omaha, NE
08/31/2000 Darien Lakes PAC, Darien Center, NY
09/17/2000 Rose Garden, Portland, OR

And there's 6 that we have that are only in lossy format. Overall, awesome work folks.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: daltonh20 on February 13, 2018, 11:38:29 PM
Hey guys it’s really awesome what you guys are doing it’s much appreciated any idea when it might be finished?
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: dutchieblue on February 14, 2018, 12:18:22 PM
Since i don't have a lot to upload anymore i started helping out Stewart with the organizing part of things.Finished 1992,1993, will finish 1994 today.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmstewart21 on February 14, 2018, 04:02:18 PM
Hey guys it’s really awesome what you guys are doing it’s much appreciated any idea when it might be finished?

Hopefully soon! We've been combing through the entire boot list chronologically, and we've gotten all of 1992-2000 uploaded, with a few gaps. I'm gonna work on completing thru 2002 over the next 2 weeks. Maybe say... 2-3 months total (just a guess) before we get it all done. I know we still have a bunch of DVDs and compilations to upload...  so I can't say for sure. Just keep following the progress here. I'll keep updating the status a few times a week in this thread.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: cmigs on February 14, 2018, 04:48:33 PM
Yeah, I have a lot of video to get through and they are often big files.
Title: Re: *Creating a new SHARED DRIVE for Crows Town*
Post by: daltonh20 on February 14, 2018, 07:05:08 PM
Awesome guys thanks a lot :D